TON Surf testers reward for the beta testing period

You meant deadline is nothing and in this way there may be future conflicts in community members regarding same things.

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Stage 2 was asked to be carried out by all participants who initially met the conditions, but for some reason were late to provide data on time. That is, they deserved the award from the very beginning. Some of the initial participants (60%) received awards, while the other part (40%) did not. This is not fair.
If in the future any of the participants wants to repeat such a competition, then why not. The main thing is that the jury votes for him.
Here in Free TON everyone can freely make their own proposal and put it up for voting.
I hope I answered your questions in detail and explained the situation.

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Community opinion is the only answer.
If community is satisfied then it should be better for Free TON also.

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This community is huge than I expected, I don’t even know there were early testers who find bugs in the past. They have done well to support TON to this point and they deserve every pay out.
I don’t know why I never heard about TON earlier in the first place :grinning: :grinning: :grinning:
By the way, congratulations to everyone.

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Anyone can explain whether this program ended or still ongoing?
Actually, I am interested to join but not sure if this is still ongoing. I don’t know if there is a program like this. Anyway, there are too many replies in this thread. I have difficulties to scroll up and down because the feature seems not friendly enough.

Guys, I tried… But in this form the proposal will not be approved and it needs to be somehow transformed into a contest.

In order not to describe for a long time, I will partially quote my correspondence with Initial Member yesterday. For the most part I agree with this opinion, though I had a slightly different vision to continue this idea.

I: “Hi! You have submitted to the vote my proposal for rewards for TON Surf testers. Do you remember?

Then only 60% of the participants from the list of all winners managed to provide information. The award was paid to them. But the remaining 40% consider this unfair and ask to re-vote for those who for some reason were late then to send the wallet address.

Due to the fact that the basic conditions of the initial competition were not violated, because the participants were determined in advance, some simply did not have time to provide the wallet address for paying the reward, everyone is asking to re-vote for the described proposal.

Is this possible? All wallet addresses of those who were late for stage 1 have already been collected and published yesterday on the forum in the topic. I will send you a copy of the proposal in PDF format and a link to the proposal on the forum.”

I.M.: “Hi Nikolai.

Yes I remember, and I think maybe you might not be aware, but it was later discussed in the chats and people brought up a great point. This (just like Crypto Angels) was a mistake.

It is incorrect to pay out tokens in hindsight based on a proposal. It has to be done in the form of a contest.

What happened was the method done earlier set a very bad precedent. People started drafting proposals to compensate them for crazy things like putting likes and comments on the forum.

Do you see the problem? It cannot work that way. And just because we did it once, doesn’t mean it should be done again. It’s all a learning process.

Many people complained and brought this up. We even discussed on the weekly update streams several times a few weeks ago. The consensus is that this cannot be the way to get tokens. The community cannot distribute anything in hindsight just because someone put in some effort. But like I said, there is still a way. A contest!

Does that make sense?”

I: “Yes, it makes a lot of sense. And I agree with almost every word. It’s certainly crazy to get tokens for a liking or a written comment.

But my proposal consists of real work done by the community members and undeniable benefits for TON Surf.

At the same time, the jury voted for it and some of the participants received their well-deserved awards. But 40% of the participants did not get any awards. 40% is a lot, isn’t it? After all, they were already determined for their contribution and no additional confirmation was required. It will turn out that they will be treated unfairly (60% received, and 40% - no). After reading the forum posts in the topic, you can find a lot of clever thoughts about it.

In this regard, it was the request of the community to vote for this repeated proposal. For those who did not have time to send the purse address then.

In my opinion, the refusal to vote for the proposals should be implemented for new submissions. It will be the right step. And to offer them to be converted into contests. In our case, this is not a new proposal, but the completion of the old one. Do you really not agree with it?

So, I think it is possible to put the proposal to a vote, as it was last time. And there, as the jury will decide.

But I would like justice to be done )”

I.M.:But my proposal consists of real work done by the community members and undeniable benefits for TON Surf. <—- 100% And I support this. But again, contest is the way to go.

40% is MAJOR! And they should get it. But still, all it takes is a contest. take a look at my examples. It’s not hard to do. It will just take a couple of weeks. But let it be a vote by a jury.

It will turn out that they will be treated unfairly (60% received, and 40% - no) <— yes… but whose fault is that? ) Not the community’s.

And also, I did and still do support this. I believe the tokens are deserved. All I am suggesting is to go about it a different way this time. It’s not that difficult. And I’m certain everyone will support a contest like this and vote for it. I will voice my support 100%.

In my opinion, the refusal to vote for the proposals should be implemented for new submissions <— but this is a new proposal. The wallets weren’t there in the first and the first is now in the past. Anything new is by definition a new proposal. And it isn’t a refusal to vote. It’s a correction of a mistake.

So, I think it is possible to put the proposal to a vote, as it was last time. And there, as the jury will decide. But I would like justice to be done ) <— I want justice too and it shall be done, and there will be a vote. But not for a past proposal but for a new one that clearly explains the reasons and puts in the form of a contest. Again, there’s no reason to think it will have a negative result. In fact quite the opposite. It will be a fantastic showcase of how the community adjusts to errors.

P.S. The jury doesn’t vote for proposals, the initial members do. Contests get voted on by a jury, and this is the difference.”

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Николай привет! Спасибо за поддержку, тобою проделывается огромная работа! Спасибо, что ты справедлив!
Можешь объяснить, примут ли наш запрос на голосование? И когда это будет происходить, или как проходит голосование? За ранее благодарен!

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Привет. Я ведь все описал чуть выше:

Как оказалось, предложение на голосование не примут. В его старом виде. Чтобы приняли, надо его как-то переделать на конкурс и запустить в виде конкурса, чтобы каждый учавствовал и подавал сам заявку.

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Ты объяснишь дальнейшие действия? Или закрываем тему?

Надо каждому поднапрячься и подумать над возможным конкурсом (описание, механика, реализация, проверка и т.п.). Предложить идею, обсудить, выдвинуть.
Или закрыть тему )

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Надо предложить новый конкурс, где будут принимать остальные 40% участников? Правильно ли Вас понял?

Such a great idea and innovative contest. I’m in support with this.
Well, it’s so bad that I missed the beta testing and I hope something like this comes up in the future. I’d be happy to join.

Я бы однозначно занялся конкурсом. Но, в связи с обстоятельставами, не могу это сделать. Банально нет возможности подготовить обычный .pdf
Господа, займитесь конкурсом. Написали же, что поддержат. Не бросайте тему.

Maybe we just can finish this one as a proposal, and it will be a FINAL proposal?
After this - all rewarded proposals will be in form of contest.

I m really dont understand, why we need split the finalised proposal to 2 parts, and threat them not equally - and decide one part as proposal, and second - as contest.

It s just 2 parts of whole; they should be deal a same way.

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Kindly know that same type of proposal prepration is ongoing so please don’t forget to submit your wallet addresses for final list creation.
Everyone will be self-responsible if they miss to submit their wallet address since it’s every supporters duty to stay tuned with the discussion
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All forum supporters are requested to check their number in the Rewards List and submit their username and wallet address in the above format by replying to the below linked Proposal Post before November 19 2020.
Thanks to all forum supporters for their contribution to the Free TON Forum.
All the best👍
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First, you are probably wrong about the topic of the forum. Your message is not relevant to this topic.
Secondly, it will also not be supported, since it refers to the previous actions of the participants, and not the future.

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It’s for very early supporters of forum after successfully completion of 6months of Free TON and in future forum features may be improved well enough to reward its supporters directly.

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I think you’re getting too carried away with this. Let me try to explain why this BETA TON tester reward exists.

Everyone who managed to find bugs during a certain period of time where selected for this contest. No one added anyone’s name out of nowhere and try to distribute TONs to people who don’t deserve it. This is a list that extracted from the Free Ton secret testing group that contributed to help the app build from both front-end and back-end and they are being compensated for it.

Now, a second run is going because some participants weren’t able to submit their addresses on time(keep in mind these people were already known and these are people that helped with the development of the app). This is the only reason why the community asking for a re-run. This list isn’t adding anyone that didn’t participate during the BETA testing period.

I hope this answers your question.

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Объясните как это сделать! Я не понимаю! Если б сказали что сделать я б собрал информацию, но я не совсем в теме…

Friends, who can create a contest on the forum for confirmed test participants?

Well, come up with ideas on how to arrange it.