You’re probably kidding.
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@Roman_D do you have to say anything? It seems that you know these guys.
@india What a surprise not to see you here
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This subgovernance isn’t created by indian community members. It seems there is no indian in initial members so this subgovernance doesn’t belongs to india.
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Of course, It is Utsav from Hackernoon) We need India exploration and development))
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Why don’t you participate and help to make Free TON Indian presents better? 1 year gone and you did nothing to Free TON development in India?
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Could you please let us know your explicit opinion about our collaboration proposal?
Haven’t you seen my proposal? You don’t care about my proposal in which almost no budget is requested upfront and are going to support a proposal with 600,000 TONs requested? What if they stole this money as what happens to Influencer SG or the results will never achieved? Will you (and others who may support this proposal) guarantee to pay 600,000 TONs back to project from your own assets?
Some of the initial members of this proposed subgovernance haven’t sent any post on the forum. Please make their forum ID public.
In addition, it is not fair at all to say that @india didn’t do anything in a year and so we are going to accept a proposal with 600,000 TONs. @india didn’t get any budget to do any work. Having a littel contribution in develepment of Free TON (without budget) is perhaps bad but it is not for sure a reason for us to pay money to others.
Lets give these initial members some time and see what they will do in a year, of course without budget as @india. If they are better than @india and some other guys then you are right.
Giving no answer is better than a sophistry.
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Can anyone introduce the members to us?
_thor
Evan
T_M
Shru
Peyji
D_Sha
Forum and TG ID?
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support the current users and inviting the new members to the platform both are two different sides of a coin. Inviting new member will require more resources and time for effective ground results. India is a democratic country with about 1.38 billion population so deserves self independent subgovernance with involvement of more native people. I couldn’t able to see even a single indian in this subgovernance.
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Thanks for reading my proposal.
re: cryptic names - that’s standard OpSec. Doesn’t paint a big red target on our backs and lets us do what we do best - in peace.
re: Influencers SG - I read about it yesterday. Really sorry that it happened to this wonderful community. I can (somewhat) relate to the pain. The first time I bought BTC (or at least I thought I did), I got scammed too. Does that mean I should never buy crypto again? Hell no.
We learn from our mistakes. If you have a specific question, I’d be happy to answer it for you.
re: all other countries make their SG - won’t that be great? My goal here (also in the proposal) is to ensure that we build advocates so that we won’t need to make proposals like this in the future. Help us get there - all ideas are welcome.
re: some paragraphs - now that is low, bro. As a writer, I detest my work getting disparaged but I understand that your criticism comes from a place of concern for Free TON.
I’m inviting @Roman_D, @ValueCreator, and am_kira to become a part of the initial team for guidance.
I hope that helps displace some of your concerns.
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Hum sab Indians hain, bro. Born and bred.
Even got our Aadhars linked to our PAN cards - I hope this joke convinces you, somewhat.
@MonaMahmoodi1 - we’re not looking to argue over here. The idea is to work together towards a common goal. Sometimes, we might have different visions which might make us doubt others’ intentions. If our proposal gets passed, @india should be happy as we’ll have the means, the resources, and the combined capabilities to crack this nut.
P.S. Best wishes to your proposal too.
Not all of us are on this forum - I don’t hide that.
But Telegram is where we all are.
I’ve given a short, relevant bio in the proposal.
We’re a combination of all-crypto and crypto-n00b folks. As a team though, I might be a bit biased, but, we’ve gotten together all that we need.
P.S. We’re also inviting Roman, Alex, and am_kira (stalwarts of this community), to assuage some of your concerns.
you are just joining the Free TON community and creating proposal for a subgovernance.
There isn’t any active member in your initial team so I can’t be a part of this type of subgovernance strangely proposed by new comers. Your motive and intentions are also looking very suspected to believe.
Why you aren’t creating a subgovernance for a single country in which you lives❓
First create some type of awareness campaign to motivate people about benefits of Free TON, then go for a subgovernance step by step.
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Working together and for Free TON is good. Nobody is against. You may do it too. Do it first and for a while and let us know you and your abilities. Afterwards, send a proposal for 600,000 TONs.
Who else came to Free TON and immadiatedly requested for 600,000 TONs?
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no one have even a free ton forum account so it’s obvious that they don’t have sufficient knowledge about free ton ecosystem.
first create some awareness campaign like Free TON Roadshow and then make a significant community around yourself then go for a subgovernance proposal.
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Jo bhi indian hai wo Free TON Roadshow jrur join kre…
Because it will be better to aware significant people about the Free TON blockchain open network.
Time : May 7, 2021, 8am (IST)
Location : Mohali Airport Chowk
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You are not on the forum.
Where is your TG group for SG?
A talented group of people with specialized skills in your country (minimum 1K members, I think) which started 1-2 months before writing SG proposal, is needed.
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Hey @_thor! Great to see you taking bull by the horns!
I would like to make a few comments/suggestions based on the remarks of others, and offer my full support in this SG.
Regarding the trepidation of some following the Influenecrs SG incident, I can see the concern here. A simple solution would be to A) onboard myself (will explain why in a moment), and some of the existing members of the current Indian community into the initial members for this group, and then subsequently the jury. Additionally to this, perhaps the budget allocation can be broken down into more manageable chunks and stages (this is something I think would be great for all SGs to do to be honest). So rather than 4 stages covering the next twelve month, break it down into 6 stages, and the Crystals asked/required can be adjusted and distributed at each stage accordingly.
The reason I’d put myself forward to work as an IM of this group, is the obvious strong ties between the United Kingdom and India. The UK is one of the most cultural places on Earth, and I’m sure the value I could bring here would be useful. Also, you know you want an excuse to work with me more @_thor, so let’s do this 
!
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An AMA or small presentation at the weekly meetup would be an excellent idea also 
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A sharp movement doesn’t work at all.
At the moment the whole thing reads like “We hope, we want, we will.” It needs to be “We do, here are the facts, here’s what we’ve done, let us deliver results for a very small amount of TONs over the next 3 moths and then decide if we should continue.”, @XLR25t said.
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