Same as going to google play store or apple store or installing some program, not going to do it by itself, thats the least you can do
The reputation of the whole project (especially of FreeTON team members) will be kept on the honest word of the third-party app developers. Are you serious about this?
What does anything has to do with the “honest word”. It called open source.
You seems to be pushing the idea of free raining TON really heavily, disregarding any attempt on the fair distribution to actual humans, not bots.
Do you have a botnet ready and/or hundreds of cheap virtual sim numbers lying around? Just asking. It costs about 5cents to register a telegram account. Seems like you are (purposly) leaving this fact on the side. It’s incredibly easy to create hundreds of tg accounts per day with some dedication.
And with any basic coding skills, flooding the airdrop bot with cheap virtual sim russian/chiniese phone numbers will the the first thing that will happen.
What ‘reputation’ exactly are you talking about?
Software you talk about is OPEN SOURCE
and over 2000 people use it now and every day.
You prefer to collect KYC and ask people to provide passports maybe?
Предложение по Airdrop.
Раздача монет организациям малого и среднего бизнеса.
Монеты в дальнейшем получают покупатели в виде бонусов( кэш) за покупку товара или услуги организации.
Условия раздачи организациям:
Организация проводит рекламную кампанию online(в социальных сетях,на сайте), offline (btl, щиты, транспорт и.т.п.)
Главное условие: Для получения токенов,организация подтверждает проведение рекламной кампании док. отчетностью, фото,видеоотчетами.
Правила проведения рекламных активностей будут прописаны в договоре о сотрудничестве.
Получить токены может только офиц. представитель организации директор или другое лицо по доверенности.
Что получает ОРГАНИЗАЦИЯ:
Выделение среди конкурентов, получение новых лояльных покупателей. Сейчас это особенно актуально среди бизнеса.Многие ищут возможность привлечения к себе и к своей продукции внимания.
Возможность зарабатывать на реффералах.За каждого пришедшего в проект опред. %.
Что получает ПРОЕКТ:
Рекламу от 1000 и более заинтересованых организаций. И в последствии -постоянного покупателя токенов в лице организаций. Бесплатные токены закончаться, потребуется приобрести новые ,чтобы продолжать радовать своих покупателей.
Каждый магазин, компания,которые включатся в аирдроп будут не только раздавать бонусы, и зарабатывать. Но и будут заинтересованы,чтобы покупатели включились в систему: правильно открыли кошелек,правильно пользоваться возможностями проекта. То есть, представители магазина могли бы консультировать новых пользователей монеты и в дальнейшем мотивировать своих покупателей на покупки для получения монет.
Как привлечь организации малого и среднего бизнеса?
Для этого также сделать реферальную систему.
Руководители малого бизнеса чаще общаются между собой( если не конкуренты😉))
Подключился сам,подключи и друга предпринимателя.
Вознаграждение-если будет подтверждена организация юрид.документами,рекламной кампанией.
Могут быть организованы специальные группы по привлечению организаций МСБ также за рефферальное вознаграждение.
Я готова первая возглавить такую рекламную рекрутерскую группу по привлечению организаций малого и среднего бизнеса!
Всех благ!
my offer I called “QUEST TURING” © : do not use third - party services and conduct a Turing Test in a Telegram chat with a bot with the following features : 1 passing the test is carried out in groups of 3 people (at the initial stages-and then in large ones) physically located together in the same room. 2. the result of the proof is three simultaneous photos or audio recordings. 3 tasks should be interesting and their performance is similar to an adventure quest. 4 the test is performed simultaneously for all formed groups once a month (or at other intervals). 5 coins are credited for completing each monthly “Turing quest”, but they are frozen for a period of one to five years on the basis of a random lottery. 6. the reward for completing the “Turing quest” can be doubled for matching a pre-determined unlikely option from the number of correct answers.
через этот метод можно распространить до 2% монет
7…8…99 капли тон |426x500
Thanks to the community - the vast majority of ideas already described, so I’ll try not to duplicate them, but to write something new. Also for easy reading I’ve tried to rely on structure of source goals of contest:
Sign-up D-o-D and Signup TONCrystal + TONCrystalNews:
I see several UI options to achieve this:
- Web-site for sharing it in social networks, groups, public forums, etc.
- Chat bots for interaction/registration mechanics (already proposed here a good proposal, so no need to duplicate)
- Social networks pages - many Facebook and other adopters do like to follow the page or theme, so we need to register respective FreeTON pages for all local communities.
- Wallet software itself could contain the social sharing functionality! This is really important for promotion and referrals remuneration (see below).
Promote the use of FreeTON:
- Referral rewards programme, including antifraud referrals counting mechanics. Then any PR-activity also could be measured via referrals and so be rewarded.
- We (community) should write, publish and promote the “loveletter” telling people why Decentralisation is important. Personally I think that one very captive description of this was provided by Mr. P.Durov in his recent post on TON project cancellation. His words re 4% are still in my mind!
Safety and secured the bots:
- For security reasons it is better to bind people to have an account on any social site for age of 1 year or older. This could be Facebook, Linkedin, Github etc. The recent KeyBase airdrop used Github accounts to target developers auditory for airdrop of XLM tokens (50$).
- Here on forum was already proposed a mechanics to bind with user’s Telegram account and use the bot to basically interact with user. I do agree and support that proposal, so I won’t duplicate it.
Plan to cover 1b citizens:
- I think the referral programme should reward more for more referrals, for instance:
1t per 1 participant
1t per first referral
1/2t per second referral
1/3t per third referral
1/5t per fourth referral, and so on as per Fibonachi, as you can see
In sum it would be less than 4t per man.
- Don’t afraid of usage of social “referral” mechanics, because the essense of social relations have many in common with blockchain - the friends are linked just like the blockchain pieces, the relations are very common, so proving a block / writing the transaction could be seen as friending, so there is no hidden risks, just possibilities!
P.S. (You can skip this) Also I thought on several good options, but I do not know how to handle them securely:
- it would be great to reward each user for their first transaction;
- it would be great if KYC could be applied without storing that private data and getting rid of it right after KYC result is acquired. I thought about the community members which could collectively process KYC submissions, but not sure that many of us could really do so, and the problem of fraud (making fake documents) still exists I suppose.
- US citizens, if someone is very eager, then can take part by buying tokens when they eventually be available;
- gamification would be nice, but only if kids really understand DoD, which is unreal so I think we better start with big ones
Thx for votes!
Open source means nothing to a user, who downloads .exe compiled by someone else.
It doesn’t guarantee that there will be no hidden malware.
Your “decentralized idena community” can’t guarantee that one day .exe file that is located on idena’s site in “Download” section or directly on github won’t be infected. Open source means that you can look through a code, and compile it after making sure that it’s secure. But executing files, that wasn’t compiled by you - you CAN’T be sure that they are safe. Check by yourself.
And mass audience won’t compile it by itself. They’ll download an .exe. And no one will know what’s hidden there.
It’s better to distrbute tokens to 900 million people and 100 million bots, than to distribute it to 3 thousand idena-crypto-fans (but real people).
Why do pepole care so much about bots, but don’t about people?
Just accept that bots are an integral part of any mass distribution. And accept that some % of tokens will be abused. Main task is to minimize that % by making abusing process more expensive for bot owners. SIM’s+Captcha solving = it costs, and we can add even more to this cost by adding additional features.
I’m confused by the statements of some participants as “everyone should get the same amount of tokens”. Guys, don’t be naive. We are not building a communism. There will always be bad guys who are smarter, who will abuse much more coins than others. It’s just how the life works.
Of course i do.
P.S. I don’t want to clog this topic with conflicts or disputes, so if someone don’t agree with me - please, reply with a reasoned criticism, not emotional impulses in defense of your favorite project.
Peace .
Friends, I already wrote about my version of the conditions for obtaining coins.
But, now I came up with another idea:
Well, let’s say an airdrop with tasks is performed on the site, or in the application (only non-primitive Google forms, and not bots)
Social networks are attached, tasks are performed.
It’s possible to install an extension in the browser (which also monitors browser activity - this is a slightly controversial decision, but such an option will weed out bots, though ordinary users may suffer) Then the application should also monitor activity (which is not an emulator, but a normal user device - and if one of the parameters is active, then the user is real. If the device and browser are inactive, then this account is screened out as a bot)
Next social. networks, phone numbers (fraudsters easily bypass this, but this is an obstacle) -for verification. We need to bind, let’s say at least 4 or 5
Document verification is the stage that prevents the introduction of coins into the masses. Because not all users will want to pass verification. But this stage can well weed out scammers.
And most importantly: the process of obtaining …
No need to send all the coins at once. It is necessary that users receive coins in portions, collecting coins daily in the application. That is, 100 coins are issued per user - then you can make the user go into the application and receive a coin once a day. As an example. You can change the percentage of receipt. But be sure to enter the application daily. ALSO NEEDED TO SHOW THE TRANSACTION SPEED: well, let’s say in order to get 1 coin the user must make a transaction (any). Those. first for entry (10 days), then unlocking coins using any transaction per day (at least 0.0000001 coins). Like this.
That is, look. Example:
Let’s say an airdrop is performed. In the sense of held. People earned 100 coins. Someone more (referrals) Generosity is over. Distribution time.
But there is no spread. There is this: within a month, users go into the application and click the “get coins” button. Get (for example) 1 coin per day. After a month, there is a distribution of collected coins. The next month, you need to go into the application every day and make 1 transaction. After a month - again the distribution of earned coins. People who have referrals also come in and carry out the task - as long as it takes (even a year) Coins will come, but not immediately, and people will get used to using the application. Thank you, I’m waiting for a reward.
I apologize for the translation
Only I have a feeling that the adherents of “Idena” are doing planned PR action here?
1. I’m not discrediting openssource software, i’m discrediting the way it will be distributed to mass user (via .exe file).
2. This is our dispute in one picture:
I’m not sure that there will be any better alternatives, so it looks like the community should decide on what to focus: on audience coverage, or on bot’s absence. That’s the main issue.
Not sure what “audience coverage” you will get with the solution that will result in 100-to-1 if not 1000-to-1 Bot-to-Human ratio (or worse).
100 accounts will cost about 5 dollars
1000 accounts will cost about 50 dollars
Imagine what some group of coders can do with a bit of money on their side. What “audience coverage” you are talking about? You will just distrubute the tokens to thousands(or millions) fake accounts belonging to a couple of real people. This is the anti-decentralization in its finest form.
My concept is the following. Let us take advantage of gamification and augmented reality. The idea is to spread TON coins around the planet and then just allow everybody to gather it using an augmented reality game like Ingress and Pokémon Go.
As a result, we will observe an insane amount of people wandering around and collecting TON coins. That will be a new golden fever. All headlines around the world will be about TON. Such attention will bring new members and significantly increase the whole project value. Moreover, that will help people to improve their physical form after COVID-19 home isolation.
Overall, we will achieve:
- Fair and diverse airdrop
- Scam prevention, as it is much trickier to fake a moving smartphone with all its sensors and camera picture.
- Marketing, a lot of attraction from ordinary people and press
- Extreme simplicity, everyone can participate even those who have no idea about cryptocurrencies. What can be simpler, just walk and collect money
- Huge userbase
- Fast distribution and full control over airdrop speed.
Of course, the proposal requires a bit of work and it is not as easy as a simple referral program, but the outcome is promising.
PS This is just a concept. I am not aware of all technical difficulties and challenges as I am not an app developer, so I post it here for further discussion and clarification. Please, make your comments.
We will have to ban and delete all topics related to Idena from now on. You have made your proposal, don’t need to repeat and pump it. The Jury will decide on the airdrops mechanics, not the posts And likes on the forum. So please, one post is more than enough. Thank you!
Do you understand that 10 million bots will cost around 500,000$? And they can claim 4 TON’s each, that will be 40 million tokens. And whole amount is 4 billion. 1% of tokens for 500,000$?
I’m not sure that there is many people who will spend 500k$ even for 1%.
That messages was addressed to @offtopic .
Regarding question №4 - Third party is a man, who has acces to idena site and github. He can change the file at any moment he want. And if he will do it in active airdrop process - a lot of users can be infected. Your decentralization means nothing in terms when someone owns the channel of distribution.
That’s my last. Sorry.
I don’t think you quite understand how github and open source software works in general.
When is the TON airdrop happening peeps?
Unfortunately participants forgot what multi-accounts is free for existing click farms.
@Mitja Please prove what I’m not using fake-accounts.
Because new posts with I-word is banned - I’ll update my original post with more details a bit later.
Если у вас получится приехать ко мне в деревню дабы реализовать ваше предложение о том что несколько людей должны физически присутствовать в одном помещении то и пару подруг с собой возьмите
ENG. I believe that the airdrop should bring popularity to the project, so the participants must make sure that they make efforts by advertising the project on such resources as twitter, facebook and other social networks as well as on cryptocurrency forums.
We need to think about how to restrain the airdrop participants from selling their coins, for example, introduce conditions for holding 80% of the received drop and give an increased drop to those who will support the project financially or with their work.
Be sure to think of a scheme to deal with multi-accounts otherwise there will be no success.
RUS. Считаю что аирдроп должен приносить популярность проекту, поэтому участникам поставить условие чтобы прилагали усилия рекламируя проект на таких ресурсах как твиттер, фейсбук и других социальных сетях а так же на криптовалютных форумах.
Нужно продумать как сдерживать участников аирдропа от продажи своих монет, например ввести условия по холду 80% полученного дропа и давать увеличенный дроп тем, кто будет поддерживать проект финансово или своей работой.
Обязательно нужно продумать схему для борьбы с мультиаккаунтами иначе успеха не будет.