Ну они скорее сливают всё и дампят курс. Да и зачем им ходлить монету если ни гробят проект.
Да и честно говоря если посмотреть на результаты то мало что сделано. Лендинга толком нового нет. Какие именно дизайны разработал и внедрил данный сабгавернанс?
С такимраскладом не то что развитие останавливается, а конкретно начинается стагнация.
Но я думаю сообщество сможет разрулить процесс. тем более больше людей активизировалось.
Предлагаю обязать Михаила вести блог в течении года.
Кто будет его после этого читать?)
Ахаха ))) Как вариант сможет вести блог под названием “Как пацан к успеху шел, но не фартануло…”
не факт, может как с гуся вода 
Интересно было бы еще про его агенство почитать. Есть ощущение что оно было создано для придания солидности. Получился не Гуд пиар а Бэд пиар. Но плохой пиар это тоже пиар)
Безразницы, он взял обязательство и должен его выполнить согласно условий.
Скорее всего сейчас пару дней подумают о том, как отмазаться, потом что-то придумают и вывалят в сеть. Мы буквально недавно такие жестекуляции замечали, но не в коммьюнити фри-тон а в правительстве.
Вау! Круто! У нас свой Навальный появился! 
Платон, публикуй кошелек для донатов.
И жги дальше!
Йес!
P.S. респект за работу.
Hi everyone!
There are no Control and Audit Departments or Security Services in Free TON. For this reason, there is a lot of misuse and corruption. At the moment, the consensus is that there is no need for such “services” and there shouldn’t be such control tools in a decentralized community.
My team and I profoundly disagree with this position, and in this regard, a few months ago, a private crypto SS (Security Service) was created.
And who can forbid us in a decentralized community? 
Disclaimer:
- Our activities have nothing to do with A&S Sub Gov or any other SubGov.
- We use only open and public data solely from legitimate sources.
- We are not responsible for the consequences that may arise from any of the parties directly or indirectly related to our investigations. We only collect publicly available information and compile it into a convenient and understandable form.
- All information published in the report has no legal force and is only a private opinion and analysis.
We call your attention to our first investigation into the activities of Web&Design SubGov.. Due to the large amount of data and labor-intensive data reconciliation, the investigation will be divided into 2 or 3 parts.
In the first part we will analyze some of the initiatives and juries that have caused a large number of questions and dissatisfaction in the community.
In parts 2 and 3 we will go through the effectiveness of contests’ design and look at what happens to the winners’ tokens.
A number of other investigations with more blatant abuses are also on the way.
But will talk about it next year
W&D SubGov Part 1:
Background to the investigation:
The first warning sign appeared a long time ago. It was about a group of people who use dozens of freelancers doing work of average quality for the sake of mass collection of prizes. (I do not have the right to publish data from personal correspondences but perhaps they themselves will add the information below)
The second sign, was judging the Video contest. Inappropriate behavior of one of the judges who was insulting the participants. And the strange synchronous voting of the judges for the winning works.
The final straw was the launch of a postcard contest with a budget of 100,000 (then still at the rate of 1$) and with the rules for distributing prizes in a very suspicious way. And this happened despite many warnings that such a competition can’t be launched, especially with such a budget.
P.S. Also a most strong catalyst was the inadequate and boorish behavior of some actors to the rest of the community.
Main actors:
The heads:
1. Michael Kabanov @michael_kabanov — an unofficial leader of Web&Design in Free TON
Owner of a creative agency GoodP
Archived data by domain:
Kabanov Michael Yurievich
- E-mail: [email protected]
- Nickname: tolstiy
- email: [email protected]
- Adress: Moskva, Pr*****iy per, 3-96
- Phone: +709****3428
- LiveJournal: https://tolstiy.livejournal.com
- FB: Redirecting...
Owner of a creative agency GoodPR
Associated with a partner candidate of Computerra.ru
https://forum.everscale.network/t/computerra-ru-partnership-proposal-to-free-ton
If we check this domain game-exe.ru in archive data of admins we can find such an e-mail:
Alexey Mihailovic @lelique — was at the same school with Kabanov and has a directly relevant to “GOOD”
• Phone number: +7963****825
• In contacts: Алексей, Владелец, Мэл Лёша
• email: [email protected]
• Avito profile – Aleksey, Moscow: https://www.avito.ru/user/e358b8079687cf4d32cdca64ceca6402/profile?id=1145212414
• A large number of photos and feedbacks in Google acc: https://www.google.com/maps/contrib/101450720185725838535/photos/@55.7654164,24.5704742,6z
• Vk: Alekseї Zinoviev | VK
• FB: Redirecting...
• Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.ru/superlelique
• Web: https://lelique.ru/
Was at the same school(№1240) with Kabanov
By the way, and has anybody noticed Ekaterina in Free TON?)
Also more than 68 common friends on Facebook.
Alexander @pastor_tsong
• Phone number: +790****4730
• • In contacts: Xma Sasha Dovnar, Александр Довнар (2), Сергевнина Валентиновна Оксана, Сергевнина Оксана Валентиновна (2)
• E-mail: [email protected]
• Avito profile: https://www.avito.ru/user/4ccb743953b3d01919b9276fc07bba8d/profile?id=1461207621
• Vkontakte profile: Vasili Alekseev | VK Vasiliy Alekseev
Originally from Minsk but lives in Moscow
Facebook friends are hidden but not for bots. 8 common friends with Michael Kabanov are found
Evgeniy Teslov - @eteslov
Phone number: +792****5615
• In contacts: Action Теслов, Eugene Teslov, Eugene Teslov (6), Евгений, Евгений Теслов (7)
• Dribbble - Discover the World’s Top Designers & Creative Professionals
It is worth mentioning: almost everyone has **connections with Lithuania** ) But in this investigation, we won’t dig it up) It is an interesting hint for those who understand, right? :)
Mikhail’s entourage:
1) Maria_Romanova @maria_romanova_art —Kabanov’s civil wife and the Artistic Director of his agency.
2) Anatoly Mishkin @anatoliy_mishkin — aka Evgeniy Romanov — aka Mr Mikhail Kabanov himself
In the beginning we thought it was Evgeniy Romanov (supposedly the son), but there are a number of signs proving that it is Mikhail himself. We won't publish it here yet. All in good time)
Now you know everyone a little, I suggest it’s time to go to a brief information concerning some competitions. You will find more details about competitions and awards in Part 2. Just some little features, for now :)
Let’s start with the” the final straw " - contest of New Year’s cards
Despite the statements of many “influencers”, the contest was adopted when everyone was busy with an excessive budget and rules. The signatories are indicated below.
Acceptance of the proposal for the competition:
55567a479eeec273038198ac8d06a5406666ff2e29f3196dd06e40000c5de622 — Kabanov
3bfb73d61dea6dcea28941510f23ad94b310034f47ae6b97588326392a017141 — Pastor
1ee988171bb950a4e82adc2b07f11a9ae8a80b9ce9e83f4fdc915c3d96efb886 — Teslov
fd9333c65b8ac909f74a9f905bd8e95c4019c62bb9cfdbc65f50e3ac081d2577 — Gregory
b37e94b3177921824eeebb978bc2916f80a2fb19982e1b673171b5fe41dc0c9c — Kotel’nikov
rewards modification in the competition:
55567a479eeec273038198ac8d06a5406666ff2e29f3196dd06e40000c5de622 — Kabanov
3bfb73d61dea6dcea28941510f23ad94b310034f47ae6b97588326392a017141 — Pastor
1ee988171bb950a4e82adc2b07f11a9ae8a80b9ce9e83f4fdc915c3d96efb886 — Teslov
fd9333c65b8ac909f74a9f905bd8e95c4019c62bb9cfdbc65f50e3ac081d2577 — Gregory
d80ced55accce7ce986d958e9d556d8ca2601123174961340c52a4abf6f9cb1e — Lelik
The results of the contest are coming soon. But many people have already noted the inappropriate behavior of at least one of the jury members..
Let’s go further… I won’t go into details, it’s what other parts are for, moreover, there are additional reports in A&S.
*Some screenshots for you, enjoy :)*
3 comrades in the first picture
I can't avoid mentioning the fact that a lot of relevant pros were rejected in the jury competition! Just click on it and see which profiles have been mercilessly rejected. It’s very intriguing thing)
It would be very interesting to get explanations by what criteria the jury was chosen! And why VERY relevant applications were rejected. Or is this a rhetorical question? :)
It can’t be a coincidence for sure that they rated only 6 out of 86 works and gave all of them the maximum points
Также весьма неплохо деятельность W&D SubGov описана в двух конкурсных отчетах. (автор @Letitbe3)
First one
Second one
And, for dessert, the most interesting thing! :) This is not a full investigation, but within **Part 1** it’s enough.
Let’s have a look at the blockchain and analyze the transactions of the above-mentioned people.
Unfortunately, I can’t give public access to our analytical tools, also screenshots can be hard to read for someone, the full scheme will be published below in the form of mindmap
The list of main accounts:
|Комментарий|Кошелек|
| — | — |
|Михаил Кабанов|0:6f41374a4a14f7a66c3f652236d9c8b0d4ecad2e67a3accb31b6ee155aa231ae|
|Мария Романова (wife)|0:b549181dd0eb4d98f038556063bd7ef43306cfe083d267fd6ac1e2413307e7b5|
|Евгений Романов (anatoliy_mishkin) supposedly a relative of Maria Romanova / according to the latest data, this is M Kabanov himself Кабанов|0:b5bfa319573297a4c3b0e5bf40aeb5d56ee1d00a2076b445f4b5a15ed8e55dd9|
|||
|Aleksei Mikhailovič (lelique)|0:f12151702a867724414902a54630a621067ffd5388e6004c1dfda563f6fdab89|
|Eugene Tėslov (eteslov)|0:7afa53386f48226cf351f1a98156b6fb37c74fe6563176a95a4320c9a0199dd0|
|||
|Chatex|0:066c96b9e6a23b8caa8cb24ef91991bfa11b2d4c3033f14f521b2be972a7e189|
|Coineal|0:0dd48e220aef64f79fd563e150be51d12515623b6344da03c97e70ef6801a139|
|stock account Sigen|0:0d46b0b1f76581b893d7002a58cd72f7844aa05eca318d0f353a623da6c3615d|
|OTC sale (guarantor’s account)|0:9fa3e490b4c5d87f22cead93441749c303f9bcb612d544e73a92f0fbb09443ec|
|||
|Transit "Withdrawal via Coineal”|0:a63ea020fc60f834c211a5c209ea9513935f4347f4962617779fe3b3cb55b709|
Transit "Chatex Withdrawal|0:d49c5baeb82a32d56089bdbba4b22459efed858157579fb83923a9eb038ccce5|
|Transit "Withdrawal via Coineal” |0:f6d48408e49b0781719b618bf700a698b7847adcc288cc6866ff5bef98d30f29|
|Kabanovs 'Transit account|0:28919e2d56aaf7acbba58b2abf5cbd32c9dea7a652c38229dda7d056115a6ce4|
|Kabanovs 'Transit account" Withdrawal to Korea”|0:c20410b62e6dcf270b693ab66e0c05c6e38b863436d33ce595003b5912993d47|
|Kabanovs 'Transit account" Withdrawal on chatex”|0:1d2f5e6c0d92b2a880bf02392534b32badcdfcb59a02eab3945ec9379ffdede9|
Screenshots from our tools are difficult to read. It's still a tool for analysts. So here is a simple and accurate Mind Map :)
Resume:
Objective:
We decided not to comment on the objective part, we did our best to provide the facts, let the community continue to express its opinion on this matter and decide.
Subjective:
Our entire team is concerned that if project participants take on the role of leaders in certain areas, they should at least believe in the project! Those who believe in the project cannot invest every earned token into the market. At least. It is very good that a lot of active people from Minter joined our project. But it’s VERY bad that some of them brought out the worst trends and an unhealthy atmosphere and grabbers mindset.
And for the rest …And for the rest, let’s wait for the next parts, there is still a lot of work ahead :)
Happy New Year 2021 to all!
Do not do nasty things and let every man praise the bridge he goes over:)
Чот мне аж поплохело от прочитанного . Очень грустная история
Чтож - когда проходил конкурс жюри я думал о правильной децентрализации. Расстроился когда меня реджекнули, но в итоге когда “поубивали” и более опытных кандидатов совсем не понял для чего это было сделано. Также с открытками и 100 000 пулом был в шоке, так как за оплату подписной кампании сколько было споров, а тут открытки спокойно прошли.
Теперь то я понимаю почему курс монеты так сильно упал - все сомнения развеяны
Предлагаю:
Согласен, нужно сформулировать предложения от сообщества. В целом поддерживаю. Я от себя добавлю:
В целом ощущение, что ситуация в W&D далека от идеальной и разрешение ситуации - тест на устойчивость сообщества к подобным проблемам. Присоединяйтесь к обсуждению.
Разогнать этот сабГАВН к чертовой матери, иначе полностью похороните монету (читай проект).
Можете скринить мой прогноз.
Всё так. Но к 100к я бы не сильно цеплялся. Тем более уже нет такого курса и имеет значение курс на момент выплаты а не на момент начала конкурса.
Так нигде и нет речи о том, что Михаил самый плохой человек в проекте)
Они втроем просто своим вызывающим поведением влезли вне очереди
We could talk about such cases for hours but what we should do is build a system which will make such cases impossible.
Выпустил он на форуме фритон хаус свое интервью с “якобы ответом” на расследование. Простите за тавтологию, но более водной воды я еще не встречал ))) - он видимо совсем не изучил расследование.
Никто, собственно, не мешает создать альтернативный саб-говернанс в противовес к уже существующему. По крайней мере, мне такое правило неизвестно. Два конкурирующих саб-гова могли бы стать выходом из сложившегося положения. Люди бы пошли к тем, кому больше доверяют и кто более плодовит и креативен в плане конкурсов. Создать можно из победителей предыдущих дизайнерских конкурсов, не аффилированных с членами W&D SubGov.
In fact, no one forbid to create an alternative sub-governance as opposed to the existing one. At least I don’t know such a rule. Two competing sub-govs could be a way out of this situation. People would go to those who are more trusted and who are more prolific and creative in terms of competitions. That can be created from winners of previous design competitions not affiliated with W&D SubGov members.
