Or do you suggest using these percentages only for internal sub-governance needs? Such as DeWorkflow, DeStats, maybe rewards for those who write contests…
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My proposal is new and needs careful discussion with key stakeholders. It is revolutionary in nature and in my opinion eventually will be adopted. Yes, maybe initially for SG internal needs, but thereafter all SGs will try to make their own economics work and that would require SGs to generate revenue. Initially staking is the only available tool but later we will see some risk-taking investment opportunities.
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We need to add a competition for new jury members to the budget estimate.
Why do we use “DeWorkflow” instead of all familiar “deSupport”?
Yes, A&S needs more funds. At the same time I think any SG shoud get funds in smaller portions, and it should be a best practice standard.
This is a promising technique. At the moment, the limiting factor is the low income from staking, ~ 8% per annum. A month later, the RUST Cup contest will end and then it will be possible to stake up to 20% per annum in addition to the base rate, which already looks quite real. If we take the current operating costs put up for discussion in the amount of 500 thousand tokens, then for staking you need to request 6 million 250 thousand tokens from the giver. But this is income for the year, and we need this amount during the quarter. So you need to multiply by 4 more, in total you will need to stake 25 million tokens. For one SG. Now it is impossible to predict what the costs will be in the future, this is the calculation for today.
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Alternatively, if the costs in the future will be higher than the required number of tokens - make a request for the missing part.
If the cost is less , the remaining tokens go to the SG backup address.
There is also the issue of security of funds. It is necessary that the tokens are not under the control of one person.
The proposal is good and was discussed earlier, but
I think Validators will not be very happy with this proposal)
Income from staking It is their bread 
45k is very small for this contest
Exactly) After all, there is a limitation of the elector’s smart contract on the size of the bet, the maximum rate cannot exceed the minimum one by more than 3 times. This means that you have to support many nodes for staking. And the more nodes, the less income.
Because there is already such a contest. To differentiate them.
It is not clear what this is. How the funds will be spent and for what. I suggest you remove it.
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Several participants offered to increase the budget to 300k tokens. They believe that this will attract professional teams to analyze partner offers.
- Leave 150k
- Assign 300k
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Are you satisfied with the motivation of the contest ? Or it should be changed.
There is an opinion that this contest is better suited for DGO SG - Leave a comment on this.
- Leave it as it is
- Change the number of tokens
- Submit the contest to DGO SG
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This competition has been in development for more than three months.
I consider it important and useful as an analysis of the growth of the Free TON community.
- Leave it as it is
- Change the number of tokens
- Other (I will leave a comment)
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Let’s agree on the budget for this competition.
Very important opinion (comment) those who are ready to take part in this contest.
- Leave it as it is
- Change the number of tokens
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Can’t understand the difference between DeWorkflow / DeSupport / DeStats.
DeWorkflow - this will be in the form of a contest (written +4000) for participants of A&S SG or distribution in some other way.
DeStats is for those who work with tables and do reconciliation. Right?
DeSupport is for motivating admins in social networks, forums, and telegram channels. Right.
Friends-give more comments.
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About DeWorkflow. Yes, in the format of a competition for active members of the A&S sub-subgovernance, as a reward for maintaining work, actively participating in calls with partners, writing proposes, contests, moderation in analytics chats, etc. It is possible to hold this contest in two parts - for active members of the previous quarter (before the new year). And then the current one.
De Stats - precisely for help in organizing payments.
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We have not hold deSupport in SG before. Think deSupport is more understandable and familiar name for such contest which help to attract more active persons to SG.
There’s no such thing as key stakeholders in a decentralized environment. You need to let this mentality go and leave it behind in the corporate world. It has no place here.
Doesn’t work. No “recurring” anything. Any contributions should be rewarded on the basis of a contest in the style of DeSupport I and II, and even better, the example of DeStats; otherwise it’s like salaries. FT is not a company.
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For an SG that has rendered some results but not nearly as much as was expected, the ask for new tokens is WAY more than anything even conceivable. Needs to be under 100K and have definite results or else needs an overhaul.
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Gov 2.0 (DGO) will have a lot of this stuff automated. Back to point 2.
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No need to split it on the basis of months. It needs to be split on the basis of results (KPIs or just results). Some analyses were done, mostly by a finite number of people. The rest has been mostly chats about what can and should.
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A good portion of the 100K should be allocated toward automating the payout process and more partner analytics analytics — contests. Please see point 1.
Conclusion. I would be willing to support A&S with tokens up to and not more than 100K to see absolute results that overshadow its previous stagnancy.
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Ron, that’s not even funny…
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Respectfully disagree. For example validators would be key stakeholders here. And most active and respected community members.
Like yourself, Ron, and other reputable people who care.
Do you assess the activity of Analytics & Support Sub-governance as one postcard contest w&d?
Oh my God, it’s really not funny